I don't think Battleships are supposed to be able to hold their own in a fight. If you look at how battleships were used in history, they were expensive ships that needed an escort of smaller ships to protect them. They were particularly vulnerable to crappy torpedo boats.

In history, battleships were mostly just a way for a nation to show off how powerful they were. The battleships themselves were actually pretty pointless and crap.

Yes, the fact that a raven has an effective EHP of 45-50k while a drake has almost the same EHP and far better damage projection coupled by the fact that the drake costs 1/3 the price of the raven is just plain sad. A 50% role bonus to BS weapons wouldn't even come close to fixing that and with the talked about changes to the drake it will gain an even bigger advantage in real DPS compared to the raven. I said this years ago before the whole drake bandwagon and people just laughed. Now we are seeing an upcoming drake buff and unless CCP does something to fix BS torps and cruise you might as well just delete the raven from the database and start over.

Battleships are broken.

It's a problem when there's virtually few reasons to select a battleship over a battle-cruiser. When a single frig, cruiser, or T3 can solo you--while all you can do is sit and watch--things are not balanced. It's completely non-nonsensical. If anything, such 1v1 engagements should be a draw.

Battleships desperately need a total re-balance and re-think with the current state of the game. I'd personally like to see drastically higher tank and resists on these ships.

I think something that was said to me recently sums it up:

"Why fly a battleship when you can get the same EHP from a T3 and have a tiny sig? And if you're worried about money BC's are much better value"

BS's do need a serious balance. I think one major improvement would be to change neuts to cycle more often but for equally less energy neuted. i've had single NOS frigs be fully active against my twin heavy NEUT tempest (even with staggered cycle). Webs dont counter frigs anymore and neither do heavy neuts. Drones die to easily and smartbombs are pretty much designed to troll... but not good for a straight up fight.

Why are so many people asking for a slow and overtanked ship that can use medium weapons? Like that wouldn't be easy to kite if it was trying to solo (slow boat with guns packing medium range... lol recipe for failfit). If you give them more speed then you essentially just end up with a Macharial. With a few exceptions, battleships are meant to be flown with support. Seriously this thread to me is like saying "why can't I use dreadnaughts to kill tackler frigs". A battleship is for fleet and needs support. In this role their substantially larger buffer makes them far better than T3 BCs since those can get alphaed very easily and it's often rather clutch to fly them.

The only thing Battleships need is for all the tiers to be balanced in terms of slots/hitpoints/pg/cpu, larger drone bays, higher scan res and for cruise and torps to be fixed. Perhaps enhance the tracking of those Dual "insert name of medium weapon" guns as well although I imagine their shorter range will still probably limit them to a small selection of fast hulls like the tempest/phoon to be viable, otherwise again, you're just asking to get kited.

Battleships (or the majority of them) should be about EHP, Damage and Damage Projection. Everything else should be left for smaller ships to support them.

SImple. Introduce tackle class vs ship class scale.

If a frigate webs battleship, its 10% (or something). If a battleship webs a frigate, its 90%.
It takes 3 frigates, 2 cruisers/bc, and 1 battleship to warp-disrupt a battleship.

The original problem comes from the fact that back in the day, before signature radius shenanigans, battleships could just instapop bejesus out of everything smaller then a battleship. The days of 3 sensor booster megathrons instapopping interceptors. So they introduced the whole signature radius thing.

Well, just continue the thought, and apply it to every offensive module, not just weapons. How come frig can jam a battleship? There should be wolfpack of frigs required for the task, not 1.

If you have an assault frigate able to repair drone damage, you can hold a battleship indefinitely. Try holding down a ship on sea with a dinghy?